A Decade Never to be Forgotten

Jethro D. Jones: All right.

Welcome to a decade,
never to be forgotten.

Cali, great to have you here.

Why don't you start by telling us
a little bit about who you are?

Cali Jones: Um, my name is Cali.

I am 17 years old and I'm
a junior in high school.

I love running with all my heart, and
that's one of my favorite things to do.

So that tells a lot about my personality.

It's where, uh, it kinda shows you see,
my determination and my hardworking,

uh, character shown a lot in that.

And I also, uh, am a podcast
editor and I'm also the managing

editor at the B Podcast Network.

Shout 'em out.

Go check them out.

They have some really good stuff
and I can say that after working for

them for a couple years, and I got
my start with that, uh, with Jethro

Jones from Transform Principle.

Shout him out.

Go check out his podcast

and, um.

My dad took a chance on me when I was
young to learn how to do something

difficult, and I made a lot of mistakes
in way, but I learned and grew a

lot from that and here I am now.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

Um, so let's talk a little bit
about that because that, um,

there have been some hard times.

There have been some hard
times with us and, um.

There were times where I was like, I
don't even wanna have Kelly do it anymore.

Mm-hmm.

And other times where I was
like, thank goodness Kelly's

doing it because she's awesome.

So what has been your perspective
on that learning process?

Cali Jones: Um, I would say it's been,
it's been hard to learn how to do it.

It's been hard.

The, one of the hardest parts
has been getting feedback from.

Uh, you about it and how I'm doing
things terribly and how I stuck at it.

That's always, that's how I felt as it
was that I was not doing a very good job.

And every time I got a bit of
positive feedback, it meant a lot.

'cause I actually felt like I was doing
something good, but it was, it was, yeah.

Jethro D. Jones: So with
that, like it's hard to get.

It's hard to get feedback
from other people.

What made it, what made
it difficult for you?

Like what were the things that, why did
you feel like I was telling you did a

terrible job when I pointed out mistakes?

Cali Jones: Well, because I made a lot of
mistakes and you pointed all of them out.

Jethro D. Jones: Which is funny because
I actually didn't point all of them out.

Oh.

But it may have felt that way to
you, but there are a lot of things

that I just did not even bring up.

Mm-hmm.

That were, that I said, I
just have to live with that.

Because if I pointed out
every single mistake, I felt

like you would just give up.

Mm-hmm.

I probably would've.

Yeah.

You think you would have?

Why?

Cali Jones: Because I
would not have wanted to.

Continue going forth, that there was
all this opposition and there was no,

like, there was no like, positive to it.

Mm.

Like if everything was, if I was
doing everything wrong, like what

was the point for me to keep going?

If there was one thing I, like, if
I did all these things wrong, but

then there was one thing I was doing
right, I probably would've kept going.

'cause there still would've been
one thing I was doing right.

That I could kept working on.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Well there, there was one thing
that was right, you were, there were

multiple things that were right.

But the, the problem was, was that the.

The, well, the problem with anything
is that the errors often stand out

more than the good things because
they are errors and um, and they

show where there's a mistake or
there's something wrong and it's more

noticeable than the positive things.

You know, you could have a 30
minute podcast and then have

five, one second mistakes.

And that's not, that's only three sec
or five seconds long, but it looks a

lot bigger because, you know, you're
just listening to the episode and then

those five things stand out a lot.

Does that make sense?

Mm-hmm.

How do you, how do you see that now?

'cause you're now giving feedback to
other editors who are doing things and

how, how are you incorporating that
learning into your, into your work?

Cali Jones: Uh, being someone who.

Needs the positive feedback along
with the negative feedback to know

that I'm not doing everything wrong.

I make sure that when I give a piece
of feedback, I make sure to point

out something that they're, that
somebody's doing right to praise them.

Especially with people that are new to it,
like if they pick up on something that was

important that they picked up on, I made
sure to tell them that I appreciated that

they picked up on while they did a good
job with that, but I'm also very clear

with the feedback and the things need to
be fixed, and I'm making it easy for them

to understand what needs to be fixed.

And be able to learn and grow from it.

It's not a difficult process
where I just say, you sucked at

this, and they're left confused.

But I tell them specifically what they
did wrong and how they can fix it.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

So, um, so talk to me
about, uh, your running.

Why do you like running?

What is good about that
and why are you into it?

Cali Jones: So I don't really
know why I like running.

I just really, really
like for some reason.

But I started, let's see.

Well, I did cross country in
elementary school, like most

elementary school kids did.

And I don't think I liked it very
much, but I'm not totally sure.

But I do remember I
walked a lot in my races.

Mm-hmm.

I maybe ran like a tiny bit
and then I just like walked.

Um, and so I was, didn't
really like it very much.

And then when we moved here, middle
school, I didn't do it in middle school.

'cause I do did flag football instead.

Yeah, that was awesome.

That was, that was cool.

And so then, and I did volleyball
and since volleyball in high

school is the same season as cross
country, I really liked volleyball.

So I was like, I'll just do volleyball.

Then some part of me was like,
but what about cross country?

But I'm like, I running,
I don't know about that.

But I was like, but what
about cross country?

And I think that was the spirit prompting
me to do cross country because that

has absolutely changed my life and
that's been such a blessing to me.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

That's, that's so fascinating to hear.

I've actually never heard
you tell that before.

Mm-hmm.

So that's really cool.

So tell me about that, that,
that call from the spirit.

What, what did that look like?

What did that feel like?

How did you know, did you know at the
time it was a spirit or do you feel

like it was later you learned that?

Like, tell me about
the, that whole process.

Cali Jones: I definitely think
that it was later that I recognized

that it was a spirit because I saw
how much it had blessed my life

and how much it like meant to me.

It took until later for me to see how much
of a change it had, uh, wrought on me.

And so I recognized the time, but I just
was like, had this feeling to like try

it out and just see how cross country
would be, and it just, like, I just kept

coming back, but, and I prayed about it
and I was like, should I do cross country?

Like, should I try out?

And I was like, I'll just try
it out and see what happens.

It's like, it's just one season
and like it can't be that hard.

And so I tried it out.

I.

Texted one of the girls who was in
our stake who was on the team, and I

asked her about it and I came out to
one of their like little summer runs

and I ran and it was really hard as
running is tell you people out there

who know who have tried running.

Um, and I was like, okay, I'll just do it.

And so I did it my first season,
my freshman year and it was so much

fun and I had such a blast and I
was like, okay, I'll do track in the

spring instead of track in the spring.

But at that point I was just kinda
like, I was just doing it for fun

and I wasn't super serious about it.

But then over the summer I started to
get more serious about it and I trained

over the summer and that was my first
summer training after my freshman year.

And that was a lot of fun.

And then I've just been
building up ever since.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

So you must have been really good,
like top of the, the pack in, in your

school if you had so much fun with it.

Cali Jones: No,

I was, I was not.

I was not fast and that's okay.

'cause I didn't care if I was fast or not.

I just did it because I liked
it and I enjoyed being with

my team and I had fun with it.

Jethro D. Jones: So this is an
important thing because you, I.

You are not the top of your class in
running and yet you still love it.

And um, and so why do you love
it if you're not the best at it?

Cali Jones: Well, being the best
is something doesn't matter.

Sometimes it just
matters that you love it.

And I mean, I want to be the best I can
be that maybe that doesn't mean I'll be

the best at my school or in my state.

But I want to be the best I can be.

And that's what makes it fun,
is that I'm trying to be the

best runner I can be for myself.

Jethro D. Jones: So that means that
you are in competition with yourself.

Right.

And because you're not trying to, you're
not getting first place in your races.

Um, and you got on varsity as a junior.

Tell me about that.

What did that look like?

Cali Jones: Um, well that was,
it was kind of exciting for me.

I.

But I also, the one race I raced as
varsity, I fumbled it pretty badly, so I

wasn't very happy about it, so I didn't
get another chance to be on varsity.

But it was an interesting experience being
under that kind of pressure and seeing

what it was gonna be like, and, yeah.

Jethro D. Jones: Okay.

So you had one race where you raced
as varsity and like, so that you,

you qualified to get your letter,
but you didn't, you weren't like.

On varsity all the time.

You weren't racing with all the
fast girls every single time.

And so how do you feel
about that aspect of it?

Cali Jones: Um, I mean, the fact
that I wasn't doing that all the

time, like that's where I want to be.

I wanted to be on varsity and I
wanted to be racing with those girls.

But now realizing, looking back
at the season, I wasn't quite

ready to be in that position yet.

And so that's what I'm working on
now is I'm trying to be ready to

be in that spot where I can race
up there and I can be confident.

Uh, racing up there with those girls.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

So one of the things that you really
liked doing before was playing basketball

and, and what The way that we have tried
to encourage you and support you is by

doing different things, uh, like saying,
giving you opportunities to do games.

Uh, or activities and sports
and all that kind of stuff.

Do I need to mute you so you can breathe?

Cali Jones: Good idea.

Okay.

Jethro D. Jones: It's okay.

Alright.

Are you a little nervous?

Yeah, just you're okay.

Let me just, uh, adjust your
volume a little bit and that might

Cali Jones: bring it down to bring it up.

Jethro D. Jones: Bring it down.

Cali Jones: Thank you.

You're

Jethro D. Jones: welcome.

Okay.

Cali Jones: Go ahead.

Jethro D. Jones: Alright, so, um, so
you were in basketball before and to

support your interest in basketball
that you seem to really like.

We got you this basketball thing
for Christmas, this little dribble

thing so you could practice.

'cause neither of your mom nor I know, um,
how to really help you with basketball.

And so what happened with that gift?

Cali Jones: Um, it's sitting in
our garage not being used because

I don't play basketball anymore.

I decided not to play this year
because I wanna focus on running.

'cause I realized that was way more
important to me than basketball.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

And did you ever use that basketball?

Cali Jones: I used it, but

Jethro D. Jones: like how many times?

Cali Jones: At least?

10.

Jethro D. Jones: At least.

10.

At least Ted.

So some like what we want to do is
support you as your parents, but.

Like, we didn't know how to help you.

So we thought maybe having an app
would, or some, some way to get

some support would be helpful.

And so we got you that basketball.

And what we thought would happen is
that you would use it in practice.

And what you didn't do is you
didn't use it in practice and use

it like 10 times and that was it.

And so what that showed us was you just
didn't actually care about it that much.

Because now what do you do every single
day, uh, for the last year or so?

What do you do?

Cali Jones: Run?

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

So tell me about why you're running
every day and why you're taking your

training so seriously now when it
didn't seem to be that important before.

Cali Jones: Um, well one of the things
was I realized I wanted to be fast and I

wanted to like, I just wanted to be fast
and I think I thought that would be fun.

And so I've been.

Working on being fast, but I also
realized with this cross country

season that I really wanted to see
what I can do when I go all in.

And so that's what I've been
doing, is I've been going all in.

I've been putting in as
much effort as I can.

I wanna see what I really am capable of.

I don't wanna finish like high
school and be like, oh, I never

consistently raised varsity.

Oh, I never went to stay.

I wanna see if I can go to stay.

I wanna see if I can
qualify for Foot Locker.

Mm-hmm.

Regionals.

I wanna see if I can do all these things.

I don't want to like stop and
be like, this is all I can do.

I want to wonder how
much more I can do still.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

So going back to the spiritual
aspect of this, you said that it

was the spirit whispering that you
should try this cross country thing.

So what did, what does that look like for
you where you, it seems like you have a

spiritual purpose to your running now.

What is, tell me about your
thought process on that.

Cali Jones: Um, well, something important
to me in my running is including

the Lord in my running all the time.

And so every day before I go out
for a run, I say a prayer that,

okay.

This could be a long podcast.

Oh geez.

Uh,

um, where was I?

So I say a prayer that I'll be safe
and I'll be able to have a good

time and I'll enjoy my running.

And I always, when I'm done
running, I always say, I pray how

grateful I am that I'm able to run.

And so I always do that.

I also do that before all
my races and the season.

I, I think I did this almost every race.

I, sorry.

Let me,

oh goodness.

Okay.

I think almost before every race
with my team, I huddled up and I

set a prayer with my whole team.

Mm-hmm.

And that was cool.

'cause some of the people on my
team, I just don't, I wanna just

be able to talk without crying.

Jethro D. Jones: That would be cool.

Maybe someday,

Cali Jones: maybe never.

Well, if I'm gonna be talking about Jesus
and running, I'm not, I'm gonna be able

to not cry or no, if you know what I mean.

Yep.

You gonna edit this out or No?

Hopefully not.

Jethro D. Jones: This
will be part of the fun.

Cali Jones: Okay.

Yeah, and that was, it was cool playing
with my teams before every race because.

Um, not, there were some people
that were members of the church.

There were some people that weren't.

There was a girl on my team
that was Jewish, but we all got

together and everyone seemed
really happy to pray together.

And I was the one that said that prayer
and it was just really cool experience.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

So the other aspect of that is
that because this is spiritual

for you, this is bigger than.

Just getting on varsity.

Like if you don't make it on
varsity and you don't go to state

next year, was this all a waste?

Cali Jones: Mm-hmm.

Jethro D. Jones: Why not?

Cali Jones: Because that's like
ultimately this's not my goal.

Like running is not just something that's
gonna be important to me in high school.

It's something that's gonna be
important to me for my whole life.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

So we're gonna do this podcast
every year for the next 10 years.

And so that means I'm gonna come
back to this question and say, are

you still running a decade from now?

Cali Jones: I sure hope I will be cheese.

Jethro D. Jones: And so like why is,
how do you know that that's something

that you're gonna be doing in 10 years?

Cali Jones: Um, I mean, just because
I've loved it so much and like as

I've done it, like through the past
few years, like I've changed and I've

still loved it and running has changed
me and it's made me a better person.

And so.

I think that's a sign to me, that's
something I'm gonna keep doing

if it's gonna keep helping me
grow and make me a better person.

Mm-hmm.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

And this is one of the things that I think
is amazing about how the Lord teaches

us, is that we can see these glimpses of
things that make us better and improve us.

And uh, sometimes those are work things.

Sometimes those are sports things.

Sometimes those are spiritual,
specifically things like

very church related.

The reality is, is that we learn all these
things in this, in whatever way we need

to, for the Lord to teach us that lesson.

So what are the lessons that you
have learned from running that have

been unique to you and helped you?

Cali Jones: Um, I've learned that,

um, let me think for a second.

I've learned that especially this
past season, that success isn't

always the way that you think.

And I've also learned that the Lord
will help use abilities that you didn't

know you had to bless other people.

Um, I've also learned like the
importance of like hard work and

what else.

No, I think that's what I got for now.

Jethro D. Jones: Okay.

So there's three good ones.

Um, so let's talk about those.

Uh, so you said success
isn't what you think.

So what does that mean and
how have you learned that?

Cali Jones: Um, well, especially in
this season, I really wanted to do

a lot better than I actually did.

I wanted to PR by a lot and I
wanted to be running faster than

I actually ran this year, but I
didn't PR at all this season and.

I just did not race how I wanted
to race, and I was capable of

a lot more, but I didn't know
how to tap into that capability.

And that was one of the most
frustrating things for me this season.

But in reality, the season was
successful because, um, I was like.

I was a incredible teammate and I was
an inspiration, uh, my teammates be.

And I know that because, uh, at the,
at the end of our, uh, at our end

of the season award banquet, um, I
got voted most inspirational mm-hmm.

By my teammates, which was something
really impactful because I really

wanted to be a better teammate and I
wanted to be a better leader on the team

and help out my teammates and get to
know everybody and talk to everybody.

And getting voted is most
inspirational was really like.

It helped me like recognize that my
teammates thought highly of me and that

they, that I had helped them and that was
something that was really important to me.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

And if I can add to that from my
perspective, one of the things that

your coach said when you got that award
was that even when Kelly had a not very

good day racing herself, she still.

Went out of her way to make sure
that other people felt supported

and felt success, uh, in their race.

And what I thought was so powerful
about that is that you would not, you

wouldn't finish first, but you wouldn't
stop and then go sulk and cry about it.

I mean, you did that sometimes,
but you didn't just go sulk.

You went and supported your
other teammates even when,

um, when it was tough for you.

Nobody told you to do that.

You decided that that's
what you needed to do.

Why, where did that come from?

Cali Jones: Um, I think a lot about
like, if something, if something

happened to me, what, how I want,
would want people to respond to me.

Like I really like, I like when
people say nice things to me.

So I go out on my way to say nice
things to people and to support others.

Like, and I just also feel this,
like lately I've been feeling

like I just need to like.

I just like, I've have been feeling this
desire to love and help other people and

just like I realize that's through like
supporting others in like kind words.

'cause I realized one of my
gifts is like the gift of words.

'cause I'm able to write really
nice notes and I'm able to say

really kind things to people.

Mm-hmm.

Jethro D. Jones: And it's so powerful
to know what your spiritual gifts

are, um, throughout your life and you
understanding that that's one of your

spiritual gifts is, is really amazing.

Um, along those lines, you.

Had, uh, you were very close to going
to districts and got beat out by someone

else, um, who went instead of you and,
uh, you, you had a chance to go and

then you weren't able to go, but you
still drove three and a half hours or

however it was to the middle of the
state to go support your teammates when.

You really didn't have to, and you made
sure that that was something that you did.

And as your dad, I was
like, why is she doing this?

She doesn't need to be there.

She doesn't need to go drive
this whole way by herself.

Well, I mean, you took your
brother and, and others, right?

So you, you weren't totally by yourself,
but you don't need to drive all the way

out there and go support your team when.

You're not part of that and like
you don't get to ride the bus

with them or anything like that.

So, um, it's, it's not necessary.

And yet you still did it.

Why was that important to you?

Cali Jones: Well, because I love my team
and I love the sport and so I love the

sport and so I wanted to go see everybody
else 'cause I'm such a huge nerd about

running and so I wanted to go see.

Everybody raced and I wanted to see how
the races would turn out, but I also

love my team so much and they've all
worked, all the girls that were racing

have worked so hard and they deserve
to have people there cheering for them.

Mm-hmm.

They deserve to have people
supporting them and congratulating

them when they did really well.

Like one of my teammates, she
had a really, really good race.

She's a freshman.

She prd by two minutes and like.

She's very, very chatty.

And so a lot of people are
kinda like turned off by that,

that she's so like chatty.

But I've made a point to really
support her and be there for her

the whole season and she really
appreciated that I was there for her.

Yeah.

Jethro D. Jones: Well, and it, it was
really powerful and it was evident at the.

Banquet that you were well loved
and appreciated by your team.

And, um, when we, as your parents try to
figure out ways to help you learn and grow

in the ways that we want the, like, if
you are successful in the worldly things

of being on varsity, going to districts,
going to state, getting first place,

that kind of stuff, that's, that's great.

And we want that for all of our kids.

But when you show the kind of character
that you showed for us, that's like,

okay, that's, that's amazing because
you're not doing that for praise.

You're not doing that for, uh,
anybody to notice you're doing

that because you want to, because.

A lot of the times
people don't notice that.

And, um, and your coach, thankfully,
has created a mechanism for people to

recognize that and give you some kudos.

Um, but, but that's not
why you're doing that.

Right.

And you, you said that you're doing it
because you love the sport and you love

your team and you want to make sure people
feel supported and like, where did you get

that idea from, that that was important?

Cali Jones: Um, I don't know.

I mean, it's something Jesus would do.

So I've like worked on
becoming more like Jesus.

I've been praying and I read my
scriptures every day, and so I

guess it just like comes with that.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

That's pretty cool.

So, um, you know, when you think about
the, the important things in life, uh.

The way that you're acting with
your team, the way that you're

training yourself, uh, those are
the things that are, uh, important.

The second thing you said was that
the Lord will use it to bless other

people, it being the, the sport and
running and, and that kind of stuff.

So that's

Cali Jones: not what I said.

Jethro D. Jones: What did you say?

Cali Jones: The Lord will
use gifts that you don't, you

know, you had to bless others.

Jethro D. Jones: Oh, okay.

The Lord will use gifts that
you have to bless others.

Alright,

Cali Jones: well, specifically
you didn't know that you have.

Jethro D. Jones: Gifts you didn't
know you have to bless others.

Yes.

Good thing you're paying
more attention than I am.

I even wrote down a note to make
sure I didn't forget it, and you're

like, you're not very good at this.

Alright, so tell me about that.

How, how has that helped?

Like how did you learn
that and how has that, how?

Cali Jones: Um, well again, going
back to the thing of being an

inspiration, like I would not have
thought of myself as an inspiration.

Like I would've said, like if it
was like most supportive, I would've

been like, oh yeah, that makes sense.

Or like.

Most positive that would make sense, but
like inspirational, like I would've never

thought like I would be inspirational.

Like when I think of inspirational,
I think of people like absorbing

something and then doing
something like the other things.

I like being supportive and
being positive is just people

absorbing something and taking it.

But with inspirational, it's somebody
acting, I feel like, and it's a more

actionable thing, and I would've not have
thought of myself as being able to do

that and have an impact like that on other
people to get them to do things and act.

Jethro D. Jones: So if I can
rephrase that a little bit.

What, what it sounds like
you're saying is that the.

The inspirational person is like
a motivational speaker out there

getting people fired up and,
and ins like inspiring people.

And you were just supporting
people and you didn't realize that

that support was inspirational.

Is that a fair summary?

Cali Jones: Yeah, I would say so.

Jethro D. Jones: Okay.

So, um, so why,

how did you not know that's a
gift and how does, how is the

Lord using that to bless others?

Cali Jones: Well, I just didn't
recognize that I had the power to

like, like I had the gift to for people
to like recognize that they could

like, like change and do something.

Like, I just felt like I've always
been really supportive and I've

always been like loving of people.

I didn't realize that people like saw that
as being inspiring and like, especially

from like where I was at the season.

Like I wasn't like the fastest runner.

So like that can be inspiring.

Like I worked hard.

Like I wasn't the best.

And that was also really
interesting to me to see that.

And so

Jethro D. Jones: what do you mean?

Cali Jones: Like, I just, like when
I think of someone being inspiring, I

think of somebody like, like putting
in a lot of work and getting like

results and then like that's inspiring
to see somebody be able to do that.

But I was just kinda, I put in a lot of
work, but I just stayed where I was at.

But I think the inspiring part of that was
I kept putting in the work, even though

I wasn't seeing the results I wanted to.

Mm-hmm.

And I think that is what
was inspiring to people.

Like if I saw that from somebody
working hard every single day and

still not getting what they wanted, I'd
be like, wow, they're still doing it

and they're still working hard, even
though things aren't going their way.

And that must be really frustrating.

I would still be like,
that's pretty inspiring.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

So do you feel like, um, things
would've been different if

you would've seen success?

Cali Jones: Um,

probably.

Jethro D. Jones: How so?

Cali Jones: Um, I'm not exactly
sure, but I mean, I still like

being a really supportive teammate
and being there for my teammates

was still really important to me.

I think that would've stayed the
same, whether or not I was like

getting the success I wanted to,
but I think, I think I would've.

I think the benefit of not having
that success was being able to

find some success from the things
that weren't, like the temporal

things, like if that makes sense.

Like not having the success I want
to, enabled me to see the more

important stuff, and I wouldn't
have, I don't think I would've been

able to notice that stuff as much.

I would've been like, oh yeah, I had a
great season because I ran super fast.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm.

But

Cali Jones: now I'm able to say I
had a great season because I was

an inspiration of my teammates.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm.

And you worked hard.

Cali Jones: Mm-hmm.

And I worked hard.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

Which is the next point,
uh, which is hard work.

So talk about why hard work is
important and what does, I mean,

what does hard work even mean?

Like, uh, you go into practice is hard
work, and so why not just stop there?

Cali Jones: I think hard work is an
intentional thing, like going to practice.

Like you could say that's
hard, but it really isn't.

Like you just go and you show up.

Like there's people who could say,
oh, I go to practice every day.

That's hard work.

No hard work is intentionally choosing to
give what you got that day and choosing

intentionally, like The biggest thing
behind hard work for me is like being

intentional about like intentionally
choosing to give what you have.

Jethro D. Jones: And what does that mean?

Cali Jones: Well, like.

I don't, you're being
intentional about it.

You're choosing, like you're
choosing what you wanna do.

Yeah.

You're not just showing up to practice
and you're not just doing the reps just

to do them and like hitting the times,
but like you're showing up and you're

like, I'm going to give like my best.

And even if the best, your best
is truly not, like your best that

day is not the best you can do.

Like you're still showing up
and giving what you haven't.

Doing the best with
what you have that day.

'cause every day is different.

And that's something that's
very true in running.

Mm-hmm.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

So what's really interesting there is
that, um, there's also other things that

you're doing outside of running that
are, uh, helping you with developing

your skills and things like that.

So you're, you're outside of practice,
so what are the other things you're

doing beyond practice, uh, each day?

Cali Jones: Like running wise,
that we're still talking.

Jethro D. Jones: I mean, you, you just
talked about how hard work is showing up

and given the best that you can that day,
but you're not just, you're not just,

oh boy.

You're not just showing up to, you're
not just showing up to practice.

You're doing more than that.

So what are the other things in
your life that you're doing to make

sure that you are showing up as your
best at practice, but then also.

Uh, doing well in other areas.

So for example, your, what you're
eating, your sleep, those kind

of things, your scripture study,
those kind of things as well.

I.

Because it's more than just
physically going to practice.

You have to prepare for it beforehand.

That's part of the intentionality.

You have to prepare for it
beforehand, and then you have to

recover from it afterward, and
you have to do all these things.

And you've really, this last year
made a big intention to do a lot

of these things that, um, uh, we're
just seeing a different side of you.

And that's, that's not
typical of a 17-year-old girl.

Cali Jones: Mm-hmm.

Something that's really
important to me is eating well.

Like I've just learned that that
is something really important to,

like, I recognize that when I eat
right my body feels a lot better

and so I feel like that's definitely
something that sets me apart.

'cause I'm very intentional about what I
eat and every, like I meal prep my lunch

for the week and I put like a lot of
thought into it and I try to figure out

what's gonna best help me for the week.

And another thing that's really
important to me is sleep.

Like I really am really particular
about this and I get annoyed by dog kit.

Jethro D. Jones: Don't snap your
buttons while you're talking.

Cali Jones: Um, and I'm annoyed
when I don't get enough sleep.

And so I try to focus on that and
make sure that's, um, important to me.

Um, that doesn't make sense.

Um, yeah, go ahead, take it away.

Now I'm done talking.

Jethro D. Jones: All right.

So, uh, getting enough
sleep, meal, prepping.

You talked about doing
your scripture study.

What other things do you think
are really important to help

you perform at your best?

Cali Jones: Um, I pray
every day before practice.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, I pray that it's gonna go well,
so that's important that I do that to me.

Um,

Jethro D. Jones: here,
put this under your cup.

That way it won't make us
know your Oh, loud one.

There you go.

That way when you take a drink,
it won't be quite as loud.

Um, all right, so you've learned
these three lessons from doing

running this year, so let's talk
about what the future looks like.

What are some of your goals and
ambitions that you're working

towards, um, and what are some
things that you want to accomplish?

Uh, you can say over the next
10 years, or you can say in the

next year before we talk again.

But, you know, I wanna just
keep it open and then we'll dig

down deeper into some things.

Cali Jones: Alright.

Um, well next, this next
year I want to run 2025.

I want to run 1500 miles, which
will be the most I've ever ran.

This year I ran like 1,114.

Mm-hmm.

And so I want to.

I do that.

And so with that comes more
consistency in my running, like

throughout the summer, which was
something I struggled with last year.

And so that consistency,

consistency piece is important in
a lot of other areas of my life.

Like I'm already pretty consistent
in reading my scriptures and stuff,

but I wanna consistently be going
like deeper and I want to like

be consistently doing a lot of.

Other important things in my life.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

So running 1500 miles is a lot, you
know, it's basically like five miles

a day essentially, or thereabouts.

'cause you don't run on
one day a week, right?

Mm-hmm.

So that's, that's a lot of time.

Uh, to spend running.

That's a lot of distance to cover.

Um, and so that's something that
you are tracking regularly and

how do you keep track of that?

Strava.

Strava.

All right.

Shout out to Kelly Strava.

Yeah, go ahead and follow her
on Strava, if you're a runner.

Um, tell me about a connection
that you made recently on Strava.

Where you did a workout.

Cali Jones: Oh yeah.

So I did a workout last Saturday.

It was, I'll, I'll drop it here for any
you run and also then also wanna try it.

Um, let's see.

It was two by 400, two by 200, two by 400,
three by 200 and that was all in trainers

and then a 400 and 200 and spikes.

And so I did that last Saturday
with one of my friends.

Um, and so then I posted it on
my Strava, which I love Strava.

It's, it's so much fun.

I posted on my Strava and there's
this girl, uh, who is from like the

other side of Washington, who I've
never met before, but she follows me.

And she's like commented before she's, I
get the impression that she's super nice.

I'm sure she is.

And so then she commented on that workout.

She's like, wow, this sounds fun.

I'm gonna try it.

And so then the next day she tried it
out and she was like, she, on her little

description of her run, she said, try
this workout that I saw Cali Jones do.

Um.

And she didn't complete
it, but she tried it.

And that's, to me, it was pretty
cool that she saw something I did

and was like, wow, that looks cool.

And then tried to do it.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

That is cool.

And uh, again, another example
of you being an inspiration and

helping someone do something that
they may not have thought of doing

before, which is pretty cool.

Um, so you, we don't let
you have social media.

Um, and have kept you off of
that until you did Strava.

And so Strava is really the
only social media that you have.

And, um, you, you've got peers
who use social media and you

haven't been able to do that.

How do you feel like that has
affected you as a 17-year-old girl?

Cali Jones: Well, sometimes I feel
left out 'cause my friends will all be

like sending reels to each other, but.

I don't get, actually I do get
sent reels, but it's not the

same when you have Instagram.

And sometimes I just like wanna go on
Instagram and like, look something up

because that's where a lot of like news
happens, especially in the running world.

And like, especially with like
people being recruited and

stuff, like, 'cause I'm a nerd,
I like seeing that kind of stuff.

Mm-hmm.

But since I, on Instagram, I can't see it.

And so it's hard for me to see that.

But it's also good 'cause um,
I know social media is like a

huge problem with youth and I.

I'm sure I would be on it way too much.

Like I'm already on Strava a lot, so.

Yeah.

Jethro D. Jones: And you, you recently
made a, a change in how you use Strava.

So tell me about that.

Cali Jones: I dunno what
you're talking about.

I'm confused.

This is

Jethro D. Jones: great.

You said I'm gonna delete
Strava from my phone.

Mm-hmm.

Did you put it back on?

Yes.

Okay, so why did you take it off
and why did you put it back on?

Cali Jones: Okay, so I took it
off because I think it was during

Thanksgiving break that I, and during
some of the school, the school weeks,

'cause I just like get on it when I'm
like, when I'm not doing anything.

And I wanted to, there was like, oh
I think it was a couple weeks ago.

I wanted to just like seelo,
I could get my screen time and

do that hep take off Strava.

'cause I get on there and just look at.

People running.

So that's such a nerdy thing
to do, but I just do that.

And so I was like, I'll just
take it off and see what happens.

But, uh, I put it back on because it's
really hard to like, comment and like.

Put in a description and title.

My run on the web version.

Mm-hmm.

It's really annoying and I really,
really like titling my runs and

doing like the description, so
I couldn't just like not do it.

Mm-hmm.

Like it pain me, not do it.

'cause I spend a lot of my run thinking
about what I'm gonna put on my Strava

because that's just something like.

It's like a creative expression for me.

Like I just love putting like fun,
like captions or like titles on.

And so that to me is just like something
really fun that I enjoy, and so I put

it back on so I could keep doing that.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

Okay.

That's cool.

No judgment by the way.

And um, what's, what's so fascinating
is that it's so easy to get stuck

into social media and things,
uh, pulling you down, right?

And, um.

And, and waste time on
those kind of things.

Like I struggle with that myself,
especially with X, formerly

known as Twitter and Nerd.

Nerd.

Yep.

And, uh, and there are a lot of different
nerdy things that I just get sucked into.

Um, and so it's, you know, you gotta
figure out what the right balance is.

And what I appreciated was that you saw.

That it was a problem because you were
wasting time and you were, as we call

it, buffering or sedating in instead
of dealing with the frustrating things

that were going on, you recognized it
and then you saw why you wanted to have

Strava in your life, and so have you
been better about sedating or buffering?

Cali Jones: Um, it's been hard
over the break 'cause there's

just so much more free time.

I dunno what to do with myself, so
I'll just pull up my phone and get on

Strava and so it hasn't been the best.

Yeah.

And so it's been difficult, but I just,
I think what I need to do is I just

need to slow down and think like, why
am I getting on my phone right now?

Why am I getting on Strava right now?

Like, is there a purpose
behind what I'm doing?

And I just need to like, put it down.

I'm like, okay with being bored.

And like just sit there like stirring
at the wall if I need to and like

thinking like my brain is like twitching.

'cause I'm like I can't do this.

I need to be doing something, but
I need to be okay with like not

doing something at the wall and
deal with that like feeling of like,

I dunno what to do with myself.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

So we talked a little bit about
your, your need for sleep.

What are some other things, I
just remembered that I wanted

to ask you this question.

What are some other things you do
to make sure that you get the sleep?

I.

That you need, that maybe your peers.

Um, aren't doing, we're
not judging anybody.

So like that, that's
not what this is about.

Don't

Cali Jones: name drop,

Jethro D. Jones: don't name drop.

We're not doing any of that, but
like you're intentional in a way

that, that other people aren't.

And so I think it's valuable for
you to share some of the things that

you do, whether they're family rules
that you don't have a choice with.

Wink, wink, or, or whether there
are things that you, uh, have

just decided to do yourself.

How do you, how do you get
the, the sleep that you need?

Cali Jones: Okay, well
shout out Jethro and Stacey.

My parents, let's go for one of our
family rules is no devices in our rooms.

And so, um, like I don't have my
room, my, my phone in my room.

I sleep.

So that definitely helps a lot.

'cause I know a lot of people
will just like be on their phone

super late and like, I know like.

Science, the blue light
helps you not go to sleep.

And another thing is I try to put my
phone, like, especially like during like

the school time, this is mainly the more
important, I try to put my phone, put

my phone away at like a certain time or
like have it like a certain, like, like

an hour before I go to bed and stuff.

And so that's something I try to do.

And I also try when I wake up in the
morning, so like this isn't really to

my sleep, but this is just really to
like mentally, I try to like wait like

30 minutes before I get on my phone
and like wait a certain amount of

time before I get on my phone in the
morning to like check my messages and.

Checks Strava.

It's not trying, let's be real.

Let's be real.

That's what I do in the mornings.

I try to like give a, like
a, a buffer time before that.

And I've noticed when I've gotten
on my phone, like pretty soon

after I wake up, I notice I feel
different throughout the day.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Uh, what other things do you
do to help you with your sleep?

Cali Jones: Um.

Well, I exercise during the day, so
it helps me sleep better at night.

Yeah.

And so that's a big one.

Like I don't just like sit around
all day and then when it's time to go

to bed and I'm like, I can't sleep.

And so I make sure to like
exercise during the day and, um.

I do stuff to help me wind down for bed.

Like I stretch and I roll out and
I write in a journal and read my

scriptures and that is all stuff
that usually is since that's kind of,

I've had that routine down since like
the beginning of the school year.

And so that's kinda like a signal
to my brain that's like, it's

time for you to go to bed now.

And so usually that is
something that helps a lot and.

I usually need to get, be in
my room by a certain time.

I've been trying to be in my room by
eight because it just takes like, I

just like to have time to do that.

I don't wanna feel rushed trying to do
those things 'cause they're important

to me and I just want to be able to do
them and not like stress about getting

them done by like a certain time.

'cause they're the things that
are helping me try to go to sleep.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

So, uh, a teenage girl going to her
room to go to bed at eight o'clock.

That seems pretty unique.

I don't know of a lot of other
girls who are doing that, do you?

Cali Jones: No.

Jethro D. Jones: So why do you go
to bed to your bedroom so early?

Cali Jones: Uh, so I can, again, so I can
have the time I need to wind down for bed.

'cause that's something that's important
to me is getting my sleep because I

don't like not having enough sleep.

I don't like feeling like I'm gonna
fall asleep in my boring classes.

Jethro D. Jones: All right.

We could, we could maybe talk
about school in a minute, but, um.

But one of the other things that,
that I've seen from you is that you

recognize that sleep is important,
and so you prioritize doing that.

So even if I'm up late or the
other kids are up late, you're

like, I'm ready to go to bed.

And part of the the credit.

That I give to you learning that, and
feel free to correct me if I'm wrong,

but your mom is a really good example
of that in how she is like, I know I'm

getting tired and I need to go to bed.

And so she just is ready to go to
bed and she gets up at five o'clock

most mornings, and so she needs
sleep and she prioritizes that also.

And so her setting that example,
I think has been really valuable.

Do you see that as valuable yourself
or do you not even notice it?

Cali Jones: Um, I haven't really
thought of it like that, but

I think sub subconsciously,

I think subconsciously I recognized
that and saw that she recognized

the importance of it and like.

She's like recognized like sometimes
when I act a certain way or like I'm

like getting worried about things.

She's like, Kylie, you
just need to go to sleep.

And so stuff like that over like
the past couple years since she's

been saying, oh, you're acting
like this because you're tired.

Mm-hmm.

I'm like, okay.

So I probably should sleep more.

Yeah.

We should go to bed earlier.

Such and such.

Jethro D. Jones: So, um, what is our, what
is our family's remedy for any ailment?

Cali Jones: Uh, sleep and water, right?

Jethro D. Jones: Something's wrong.

What do we say?

Sleep and water.

Cali Jones: Oh, and probably eat too.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

Eat, sleep and water.

Or not eat that.

Or not eat

Cali Jones: also, that's also a
remedy sometimes just stop eating.

You're just bored.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

It's funny because, uh, 'cause that is,
we have said this for so long, you just

need to go to sleep, so just go to bed and
that'll, you'll feel fine in the morning.

Mm-hmm.

And it's funny because as
a, as a parent, you're like.

You honestly don't know what you're doing.

You have no idea, right?

You're just making up as you go along.

But what we have found is that when you
guys do get sleep, then you're better.

Wow.

And

Cali Jones: I'm so glad you realized that.

Jethro D. Jones: And so now like
we always say, just go to sleep.

And it, and it always does.

It does help.

Um, alright, so, uh, so we
talked about one of your goals

for this year is 1500 miles.

What other things do you have
looking forward to the future?

Cali Jones: Well.

Okay.

As you know, I'm 17 and in the next
20 years, I mean 10, well, not 20.

Hello.

Um, well, in 10 years I'll be 27 and
a lot's gonna happen in that time.

Mm-hmm.

College, hopefully a mission.

Probably getting married, hopefully
traveling, maybe kids that would

probably be good to have kids for 27.

If not, then gonna getting old.

And so there's a lot of big
things like gonna happen.

I'm gonna be an adult.

Yeah, that too.

Jethro D. Jones: Yes.

Um, I can vote.

That's a, that's coming this year.

Cali Jones: That's coming this year.

Yep.

Shout out me turning 18 soon.

Um, and so it's just a lot of
things that are happening with that.

And I mean, all those big events
that I like have and like I

want to get married and go on a
mission and go get into college.

I mean, I don't think I'll
have a problem with that, you

know, but I also want to run.

Mar a marathon, probably a
couple marathons, not just one.

Um, and just like try new things.

And I do really wanna travel more.

'cause I, with my trip to Costa
Rica this past summer, which was one

of the most amazing experiences of
my life, I realized I really like

traveling and I want to do more of it.

And so that's a goal that I have.

When I'm an adult is to travel more.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

Let's talk a little bit about
you going to Costa Rica.

'cause that was, uh, that was a big deal.

Mm-hmm.

Something that you wanted to do.

Mm-hmm.

And, uh, how did you pay for that?

Cali Jones: Well, during my time for
the B Podcast Network, I gained a

salary in which I was able to spend
ex save money to do such a thing.

But yeah, I, there's a lot of
not buying things I wanted.

There's a lot of.

Saying no to things that I wanted to
get because I knew that I had to save

for Costa Rica and I mean, I missed
a few payments and so I had to pay an

extra $200 'cause I missed like four.

Mm-hmm.

And so that was really frustrating,
especially 'cause I, most of the

time I had enough money, it was just
not in the right account for it.

And the dates got changed, like a little
messed up from like switching things over.

So it was one of those
really frustrating things.

But even with extra things,
I was able to pay for it and.

I mean, the Lord helped make that happen
because Costa Rica was really amazing and

he knew that I needed that experience.

Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.

So I thought it was really amazing
that you paid for it yourself, that

you were disciplined and saved your
money and didn't waste it on things.

And that was awesome.

And that was really cool to see
because um, it's not easy to do that.

But again, going back to some of
the things we've talked about,

you had a deeper purpose to it.

And it wasn't just like,
Hey, this would be fun.

I want to go do it.

Like, you know, buying a game
for your phone or something.

It was,

Cali Jones: I'm not that person.

Maybe you are, but not be,

Jethro D. Jones: ain't that the truth?

Uh, you, you said no to things that, that
you wanted so that you could do the thing

that you really felt you needed to do.

And so what made going
to Costa Rica so amazing.

Cali Jones: Um, I don't know.

I think it was just, 'cause it
was something I had never done

before and it was a new experience.

It was my first time, like, really going
to a foreign country like Canada doesn't

count because it's like right there.

And so it was like really just
like a completely new experience.

And like, I love Spanish so much and
so being able to like go there and like

speak Spanish, to hear people speak
Spanish all the time was very, very cool.

And like, it was just something
very much outta my comfort zone and

going with people like I wasn't,
didn't really know very well.

Like doing something that was
like, something I'd never done

before, and that was very cool.

Mm-hmm.

Jethro D. Jones: And so what about
going to, uh, this other country?

Like what perspective did you get about
other people and how they live and

different cultures and things like that?

Cali Jones: Well, I thought it was
really cool that I was able to see like

how another, like group of people lived
and like being able to also see like

the commonalities, like the love that
people have for each other and like.

People are all just trying
to like do their best.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, that was pretty cool.

That was a neat experience.

What else do you wanna
say about Costa Rica?

Cali Jones: Um, I mean, it was
just such a beautiful country

and all the people, there were,
everyone went there was really nice.

Like people in Costa Rica are very nice.

I learned and I thought
that was really cool.

And I mean, it's just a cool experience
going to like see outside of where

you live and that's what I would say.

To anybody who's like ever thought about
traveling and who's ever like traveled

before, I would say you should go see
some other place and don't just like go

see like the usual, like touristy stuff.

Try to go really see people.

Mm-hmm.

That's what I'd say.

That's what makes like trips so cool
is seeing people and like that's what

people say about their mission too.

It's like it doesn't matter where
you get sent, it's like the people

that you fall in love with and so,

Jethro D. Jones: yeah.

Well, one of the things that you realize
is that everybody is a child of God.

And they have their own life and their
own experience that they're living

and they have miracles and trials and
frustrations just like everybody else.

And, um, and it's, it's really amazing.

So you've mentioned a
mission a couple times.

Why do you want to go on a mission?

Like where did that come from?

Cali Jones: Um, well I think that
would be really cool to go again,

go someplace else and see like.

Other, like see how other people
live and just like, I mean, I wanna

share my testimony with other people.

Excuse me.

That was nasty.

Oh my gosh.

I mean, I just, I wanna go like I love
the Lord and I just want other people

to feel the joy that I've been feeling.

And so,

Jethro D. Jones: okay,
so like, let's go deeper.

Um, you're not required
to go on a mission.

No.

So why have there been any, uh, examples
or influences or people where you're like,

somebody said or suggested it and you're
like, oh, maybe that is for me, like, and

we've certainly never pushed you to do it.

Um, 'cause that's not our style.

So what are you, like, where's,
where's this desire coming from?

Cali Jones: Um, well, everybody,
like we have return missionaries

come speak to like our seminar.

It's like, come speak at seminar
and like everybody gets together and

like this Return missionary speaks
and every return missionary said,

like, think about going on a mission.

Like, just like, think
about it like to everybody.

It's not just like, like the
boys are kinda like required too,

but it's like, it's like to the
girls there like, think about it.

Like at least think about it.

And so I think that's important to like.

Keep that opportunity open.

That's something I do want to do.

I think that would be, it's
gonna be really hard, but

hard things are good and so,

Jethro D. Jones: mm-hmm.

Yeah, they, they definitely are.

They definitely are good and hard.

Um, and so you're going to graduate
from high school and turn 19 and

be eligible to go just a few months
after you graduate next year, so

Cali Jones: about six.

Yep.

Jethro D. Jones: So, um, so you got
some decisions to make about that,

of going to college for a semester
or not and, and things like that.

Um, you have cousins and people, uh,
in the stake who've gone on missions.

What has their example done to help
you decide to do that yourself?

Cali Jones: Um, well,
it's really coolest thing.

You'll just show faith in choosing to
do that and like hearing people's like

stories and hearing like where they've
come from and just being like, they're

just choosing to have faith and choosing
to try it out and see what happens and

seeing how all these different people are
choosing to all do the same thing, which

is serve the Lord and love other people.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

Yeah, that's really powerful
and it's, it is a choice, right?

Like you.

Even if you go on a mission, you
still have to choose to serve, just

like you were saying with your, um,
practice for cross country and track.

You have to be intentional and choose
to do it, and if you don't, then like

you can just show up and go through
the motions, but what good is that?

Cali Jones: Is that an actual question?

Jethro D. Jones: No,

Cali Jones: you should have
really look boss and looked at me.

Sorry.

I like zoned out a little bit.

Jethro D. Jones: I have
that effect on people.

Thanks.

Okay.

Alright.

Um.

What are, uh, what are some
of the habits that you want

to keep going into the future?

Cali Jones: Um, definitely
reading my scriptures every day.

Uh, like I read the Book of
Mormon every, every night, and

I've been doing that since like.

For like four years.

And so I don't think I've missed
a night in four years of reading

the book Morn every night.

And that's something
I still wanna keep up.

'cause like, like President Nelson
said, read the book morn every day.

And I'm like, bear choices every day.

Mm-hmm.

And so I definitely don't
wanna lose that habit.

And I also want to stay
consistent in my running.

'cause that's, that's important to me.

And also eating healthy and sleeping
well, those are all very important.

Jethro D. Jones: Mm-hmm.

Um, are there any things that
you're doing that you want to stop

doing or want to be done with?

Cali Jones: Uh, chewing my nails for sure.

I don't like that.

I like that I do that, but, um, and
there's also like when I sometimes get

stressed, like I crack my neck a lot, but
doesn't like crack and so I'm just like.

Twisting my neck a lot and it, and
my neck, like sometimes on a really

stressful day, it like ends up being
really sore and I just don't like that

I do that, but I just like do it and I
don't know how to like stop doing it.

So it's like, I just like
don't like that I do that.

Hmm.

And it's just annoying.

Jethro D. Jones: Okay.

Uh, so you're, I in your junior year,
what advice would you give yourself

as a freshman if you could go back
and give yourself some advice?

That was a real question.

Cali Jones: I know.

I just dunno what I would
advice I would give.

Um,

I, I honestly don't know, like,

um,

I would just say probably
just like love other people.

More and just like,

like, just be nice to everybody.

Like I wasn't like a mean kid or anything,
and I wasn't like, I dunno, this is,

it's not like a huge piece of advice.

I would like completely change things,
but it's just like a little thing.

Like I've definitely grown in like loving
people more and it's not like, like, uh,

like a hit on my, like freshman self.

Like it's just how I've grown.

And it's not like things have
happened the way I need to

be, but I'm just saying like.

Just like, make sure to love other people
and like focus on loving other people

and don't worry about yourself so much.

Mm-hmm.

Jethro D. Jones: So the, the
beauty in that question is that,

um, we often give the advice that
brought us to where we're at.

When, when we answer that question
or we give the advice that, that we.

That reflects the regret that we
have about not being where we're at.

And so in your situation, you gave the
advice that has brought you to where

you're at, which is love other people and
you've done a really good job of that.

And, um, things are certainly not perfect.

And it's not like you have everything
that you could possibly want and you

succeed at everything in your life.

But that is one thing that I have seen.

You grow with over the last three
years is you've just really done a

good job of loving other people and
um, and I think that's really powerful.

Um, is there anything else that you
want to talk about before we end?

Anything that we missed?

Cali Jones: I don't think so.

Jethro D. Jones: Okay.

You good to call and end for this year?

And then we'll try, we'll start,
we'll chat again next year.

Cali Jones: I think so.

Jethro D. Jones: All right, well, uh,
I'll miss seeing you for the next year.

Cali Jones: Oh yeah.

What we gonna do?

We're not gonna talk at all for the next.

Jethro D. Jones: No, that's
definitely not gonna happen.

Oh.

Um, so, uh, so we will do this
one again a year from now.

Uh, so January of 2026.

Um, we'll have another discussion
like this and, um, I'm looking forward

to seeing where you go and what
you accomplish over the next day.

Cali Jones: Hopefully.

By that time, I'll be
accepted into colleges.

Jethro D. Jones: Oh, that would
be pretty wild, wouldn't it?

Cali Jones: Mm-hmm.

Jethro D. Jones: We could
start talking about where

you're gonna go to college and,

Cali Jones: mm-hmm.

Jethro D. Jones: Man.

Okay.

How exciting.

Cali Jones: How exciting.

I'm gonna miss you so much.

Hey, we still have a while.

I know.

I, it's too real.

Jethro D. Jones: All right.

Thanks, Kelly.

I love you.

Thanks,

Cali Jones: dad.

I love you too.